{"id":1785,"date":"2014-07-23T21:40:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-23T21:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/23\/hand-horner-interview\/"},"modified":"2014-07-23T21:40:00","modified_gmt":"2014-07-23T21:40:00","slug":"hand-horner-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/23\/hand-horner-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Gideon Horner interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"videosmaller\">Wednesday, July 23, 2014 \u2013 2:40 p.m.<\/p>\n<p>Gideon Horner is the minister at the church Cindy Fine attends.<\/p>\n<p>Detectives Armstrong and Murphy interviewed him at Trinity Church.<\/p>\n<p><em>Participants:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Detective T. Armstrong<\/li>\n<li>Detective S. Murphy<\/li>\n<li>Rev. Gideon Horner<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Thank you for taking the time to speak with us today, Reverend Horner. It&#8217;s nice to see you again.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: No problem at all. I hope I can help you.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: For our records, could you please state your name and address?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: I am Gideon Horner, and I live at 752 Nottingham Drive here in Oxford.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And your occupation?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: I&#8217;m the minister here at the church.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: We&#8217;re here to talk to you as part of the investigation into the murder of Andy Fine.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: I figured as much.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Did you know Andy Fine?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Not really. Of course, I had heard of him, but he didn&#8217;t attend services here.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And his wife, Cindy?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Oh, Cindy, I know very well. She attends services regularly and is very active in church activities. The poor woman \u2026 what a terrible thing to go through. I&#8217;ve tried to spend a lot of time ministering to her during this difficult period.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What can you tell us about Cindy?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: She is a sweet, loving, and kind Christian woman. I wish our congregation had more like her. Always outgoing, always smiling. So many people, even those that are very devout, still get grumpy from time to time. I can see them from the pulpit. They start fidgeting and checking their watches. They get worried about if they&#8217;re going to get home in time for the football game or not. Or they wonder if the pot roast is getting too well-done in the oven. We&#8217;re only human, after all. But not Cindy. She&#8217;s always attentive and energetic.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: She sounds like a real positive member of your congregation.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Certainly. She visits our elderly members who are home-bound or in a nursing home. She is always the first to bring a casserole or something to the fellowship dinners. When the youth group takes up donations for their summer trip, she always gives as much as she can. I really can&#8217;t say enough good about Cindy.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How has she been handling the death of her husband?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Naturally, she&#8217;s distraught. It&#8217;s a very traumatic thing. And that&#8217;s something I never get used to\u2014sitting with grieving people. It&#8217;s very difficult. But fortunately, she has her faith in the Lord to get her through.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Shoot, that&#8217;s all she needs, right? I mean, God&#8217;s got a plan and all that crap, right?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Detective, I consider myself a modern and educated minister. I&#8217;m not some backwoods, old-fashioned, fire-and-brimstone, Bible thumper. I&#8217;m perfectly aware of the difficulties in explaining God&#8217;s will when tragedies occur. But I do believe that he will help you get through things. So to answer your question, sometimes her faith helps her; some days, I&#8217;m sure it doesn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How was her marriage?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Well \u2026 what do you mean?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Andy was a bit of an animal. She told us that he beat her.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Yes, I&#8217;m afraid that&#8217;s right. She and I spent a lot of time in prayer together about Andy, and I often suggested counseling, but he would hear nothing of it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: So, what did you do?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: There wasn&#8217;t much I could do. I mean, she wasn&#8217;t willing to go to the police about his abuse. She wasn&#8217;t willing to leave him. So I had to respect her wishes. In the end, the only thing I could do was pray for her and remind her that God loves her. And let her know I was concerned for her safety.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Did you ever suggest that she divorce Andy?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: That&#8217;s a complicated topic, Detective. Obviously, divorce is not something that I can take lightly as a minister. The wedding vows are something that we hold dear and take very seriously, so I would not push for it. However, I did mention it, and we did discuss it. The Lord wants us to honor and obey, but not if those vows become a death sentence.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: So, what was the end result of your discussions of divorce?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Nothing. She wouldn&#8217;t hear it. Totally unwilling to even discuss it at any length. It would come up, and she would usually pretty quickly dismiss it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: This is a difficult question, but I have to ask it: do you think Cindy is capable of having anything to do with her husband&#8217;s death.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Absolutely not.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: You sure? I mean, abused women can just snap. In many cases, it&#8217;s self-defense. You can&#8217;t really blame them.<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: There is no doubt in my mind or heart that Cindy had nothing to do with it. I have to admit\u2014this is embarrassing and not something that I should be saying\u2014but, well, I&#8217;ll be honest. There were times when I wished she would do something about it. There were times when I definitely was thinking of an eye for an eye. I wished she would stand up to him. But that just shows how strong her faith is.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: How so?<\/p>\n<p><em>Gideon Horner<\/em>: Even at the times when I was angry and vengeful, she remained loving and loyal. Willing to turn the other cheek. There&#8217;s no way she could hurt Andy in any way, much less have anything to do with his death.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Okay, thanks for your time. We appreciate your candor. 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