{"id":1761,"date":"2014-07-19T17:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-19T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/19\/interview-c-fine-2\/"},"modified":"2014-07-19T17:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-07-19T17:00:00","slug":"interview-c-fine-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/19\/interview-c-fine-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Cindy Fine interview #2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"videosmaller\">Saturday, July 19, 2014 \u2013 10:00 a.m.<\/p>\n<p>Cindy Fine was Andy Fine&#8217;s wife and reported him missing on July 7, 2014.<\/p>\n<p>Detectives Armstrong and Murphy re-interviewed her at the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff&#8217;s Department.<\/p>\n<p><em>Participants:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Detective T. Armstrong<\/li>\n<li>Detective S. Murphy<\/li>\n<li>Cynthia Fine<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Thanks for coming in to talk with us again, Mrs. Fine. Can you state your name and address again for the record?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Sure. Cynthia Campbell Fine, 596 Hathorn Road.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Great. Now, Mrs. Fine, we&#8217;d like to go over again what happened the night you last saw your husband.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Okay. I mean, I want to help and\u2014 well, I told you everything I know.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Right. Well then, let&#8217;s see if we got it right the first time. On July 3rd, you showed up at Duffy&#8217;s around 7:30, 8:00?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I think so.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: And you left around midnight?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I took the car home.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Why did you leave without your husband, Mrs. Fine?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I\u2014 well, I was tired. Real tired.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What happened right before you left?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Um, nothing. I mean\u2014 Carl and Andy were playing pool, and I just got real tired. I\u2026 well, I was just being a spoilsport, so I went home.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: What about the watch?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: The watch. A couple of folks said your husband lost his watch.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I\u2014 you mean Carl? Or\u2026<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Just tell us what happened.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Oh. Well, I\u2014 Andy\u2026 he had this watch. It was his favorite. I mean, it was his only watch, of course. We don&#8217;t have much money for that kind of thing. Anyway, I \u2014 he took it off to play pool and put it on the table where I was sitting, and I\u2014 well, I must have misplaced it\u2014 lost it. He\u2026 well, he didn&#8217;t want to leave until we found it. I don&#8217;t know what happened. I must&#8217;ve lost it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How could you have lost it? Did you throw it away?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. No, I just mean\u2014 well, I guess I wasn&#8217;t keeping my eye on things. You know\u2026 I was busy eating and talking with Eddie and Dudley.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: But that doesn&#8217;t mean you lost it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. It&#8217;s just\u2014 well, I\u2014 Andy was kind of upset. I felt really bad.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: So you were looking for the watch, and that&#8217;s when you left?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I just got\u2026 well\u2026 I guess I just got tired.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Eddie and Dudley \u2014 you told us before that was Eddie Dooley and Dudley Brinkman, right?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes, that&#8217;s right.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: How well do you know them?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Um, I don&#8217;t know Eddie too much. He&#8217;s mostly Andy&#8217;s friend, you know, from Duffy&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: And what about Dudley? Was he Andy&#8217;s drinking buddy too?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What? Oh\u2014 no, no, not at all. Dudley\u2014 he&#8217;s not like that. He definitely wasn&#8217;t one of Andy&#8217;s favorite people.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Why&#8217;s that?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Oh, he\u2026 well, he&#8217;s more the quiet, reserved type. He hardly ever goes to Duffy&#8217;s. I don&#8217;t know exactly why he was there. He\u2014 well, I guess you could say we were friends in school.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Friends?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I\u2014 well, he took piano lessons from my father. And we went on a couple of dates, I guess. It wasn&#8217;t a big deal. You know\u2026 high school. I didn&#8217;t date anyone real seriously back then. I didn&#8217;t\u2026 well\u2026 Andy was the first time I fell in love.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Right. So were you and Dudley ever intimate?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Gosh, no. Never.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And how often have you seen him since then?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Since high school? Um\u2026 I don&#8217;t know. Not often. It&#8217;s a small town. Sometimes I run into him in the store and what have you. See him at church, I guess. I always say hello. He seems like such a lonely person. I always hoped he might find a nice girl to settle down with.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And how often did you see him at Duffy&#8217;s?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Well, like I said, I hardly ever saw him. I only went to the bar a few times, and maybe in all those years, once? I don&#8217;t remember. I&#8217;m sorry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: That&#8217;s okay. And you never saw Mr. Brinkman socially aside from that?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Gosh, no. I had my hands full.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Okay. So that night at Duffy&#8217;s, was Dudley still there when you left?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. He must&#8217;ve left, I don&#8217;t know, sometime earlier. I&#8217;m sorry. I didn&#8217;t notice.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And you didn&#8217;t see him after that, maybe in the parking lot?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. Not at all.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Your husband didn&#8217;t seem too happy to see Mr. Brinkman.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: We hear Andy and Dudley almost got in a fight.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No, it wasn&#8217;t like that. I\u2014 he was just playing pool, having a good time. Dudley acted so\u2026 timid around Andy. And he didn&#8217;t like that. It\u2014 well, sometimes Andy gets carried away. He keeps trying to get a reaction. Sometimes he got into fights.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: We heard. So how did it all end up?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Well, I\u2014 Dudley just got up and left. Andy kept yelling at him, but nothing happened.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: And then you left.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I mean, it was later. Like I said, it was after midnight. I felt bad about it, but\u2014 I\u2014 well, I just wasn&#8217;t helping much. It was so late. I wasn&#8217;t thinking.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How did Andy feel about you leaving?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: He\u2014 I\u2014 well, I just left. I mean, he was kind of upset. I\u2014 do we have to talk about this? It&#8217;s private.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Mrs. Fine, more than 10 people told us they saw your husband physically threaten you in the bar.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No! No, that&#8217;s just\u2014 no. That&#8217;s not right. He was just upset about the watch. He\u2026 didn&#8217;t know what he was doing. He had too much to drink. And\u2014 well, I was right there the whole time. I mean, he&#8217;s right. I didn&#8217;t see what happened to his watch.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: You mean you deserved to be hit?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: He didn&#8217;t hit me. I mean\u2014 no. No, he didn&#8217;t hit me. He wouldn&#8217;t hit me like that. He\u2014 I mean, he was just trying to have a good time. He was upset about the watch.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Did your husband hit you often?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. He didn&#8217;t\u2014 I mean, he didn&#8217;t hit me\u2026 never. He never hit me. I\u2014 like I said before, I tried to give him his freedom. He needed that. I\u2014 he\u2014 I just wanted to help him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Did he want your help?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. I mean\u2014 I&#8217;d rather not answer that. It was our marriage. I\u2026 want to keep those memories for my own.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Okay. So what happened at the bar? If he didn&#8217;t hit you, what did he do?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: He\u2014 well, he was pretty upset about the watch. I wasn&#8217;t keeping an eye on it\u2014 and I\u2014 he was yelling at me about that, I guess. That&#8217;s when I got tired. He\u2026 well, that&#8217;s when I went home.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Okay. Now, why didn&#8217;t you tell us this before?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I&#8217;m sorry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: It&#8217;s all right. We&#8217;re just trying to understand.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Well, I\u2014 you know, I&#8217;m so ashamed. I just wanted to help him, and\u2014 well\u2014 I don&#8217;t see any reason to gossip about our private life. I was committed to our marriage.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What else did you keep quiet about?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What do you mean?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Was he hitting you?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No! No. He\u2014 I really don&#8217;t want to talk about this. I wish you would respect that. I\u2014 I&#8217;m sorry. This is really hard for me.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Mrs. Fine, I don&#8217;t want to upset you. You can take your time. But plenty of people we talked to had the idea that your husband treated you pretty rough\u2014<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: It&#8217;s not true!<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: You&#8217;re not saying anything about it, which is very loyal. But you also didn&#8217;t say anything about the watch when you came to talk to us last time. So how do we know you&#8217;re not lying?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No! I&#8217;m not lying. I can&#8217;t lie. It&#8217;s wrong. I\u2026 oh gosh, I&#8217;m sorry. I don&#8217;t know what to say.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Just tell us the truth. He hit you, didn&#8217;t he?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I can&#8217;t\u2026 I&#8217;m sorry. No. I can&#8217;t. I\u2014 can I have a couple of minutes? I need to\u2014 I need to think. I need to pray. Please.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: All right.<\/p>\n[Interview suspended 10:24 a.m.]\n[Interview resumed 10:33 a.m.]\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Now then, Mrs. Fine. Whenever you&#8217;re ready.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: All right. I&#8217;m sorry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: That&#8217;s okay. Just tell us about Andy. Did he ever hit you?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How often?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Hardly ever. He\u2014 I don&#8217;t know. Sometimes he would get in these moods. He would be so tired from work, and I was such a stick in the mud. I never wanted to just go out and have fun. He\u2014 I think that bothered him. I bothered him. All I wanted to do was help but\u2014 I just bothered him all the time.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Would you say he hit you every night?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. No\u2014 nothing like that.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How often would you say it was?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I\u2014 gosh, I\u2014 I don&#8217;t know. It was usually when he had something to drink, or he was upset about work. I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m sorry, I just\u2014 well, I tried to just work through it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What would you do when it happened?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Usually, nothing happened. I mean, he just fell asleep or left or\u2026 I would let him go, and then I would go to bed. In the morning, it was like it never happened. He\u2014 it would be like starting over. A clean slate. I\u2014 he always apologized. He would just get so fed up with me. I didn&#8217;t want to burden him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: You never called the police?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. No, I didn&#8217;t want to betray him. I&#8217;m sorry, that&#8217;s what it feels like. I feel like I&#8217;m betraying him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: That&#8217;s okay, Mrs. Fine. Take your time.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. Go on.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: When this happened, you never felt angry? Did you ever hit him back?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What? No. Never, I\u2014 I could never hurt him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: But that night in the bar, he was threatening you, and you walked out on him. You said he was pretty upset.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes, but I\u2014 well, I just didn&#8217;t have the patience that night. It was my fault. He needed me to help find the watch, but he never did.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: He told you that?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: He told you he never found the watch?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. He was real mad.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Now, when was this exactly? When he came home later on?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Well, I came home early in the car, and Andy came home later \u2014 and he said that the watch had been stolen and that it was my fault. I told him that I would go back to the bar and look for it some more, and he said it was too late. Eddie Dooley had already stolen it. I just\u2026 wasn&#8217;t watching close enough. He just stole it right out from under me. Andy was pretty mad.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What time was this, would you say?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Uh, well, maybe 1:30, 2:00?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Were you waiting up?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. I went to bed. You know\u2014 I felt so tired.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Right. But he got home and woke you?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. He\u2026 well, he was still pretty drunk. He had a bottle of whiskey or something. I think he got it from the cupboard.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Mrs. Fine, what happened at that point?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Well, he\u2026 I\u2026 I&#8217;m sorry. It&#8217;s just so hard.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: That&#8217;s okay.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: He hit me pretty bad. I kept saying I was sorry, and he just kept yelling and\u2014 he kept swinging at me\u2026 I\u2014 oh\u2014 forgive me. I&#8217;m so weak.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: That&#8217;s okay. What happened after that?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: He left.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: He took the car?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. He got in the car.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: And that was the last time you saw him?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes. I\u2026 I was trying to get him to settle down\u2014 you know, if he could just pass out. I told him, &#8220;Keep hitting me. Just don&#8217;t leave.&#8221; I guess I had a bad feeling\u2026 I didn&#8217;t know\u2026 it&#8217;s so horrible. He\u2014 I just couldn&#8217;t get him to stay.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: You weren&#8217;t angry about it?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Mrs. Fine, you&#8217;ve changed your story quite a bit since the last time we talked. How do we know you didn&#8217;t hit him back, maybe hit him a little too hard?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Did anyone see you that night? Did anyone see him leave?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t think so. I mean\u2026 yes\u2014 I went to Robyn&#8217;s. That&#8217;s where I ended up.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: When?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: After he left. He, um, took the car. He had the car with him. I had to call.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Is this something that happened a lot? You calling her in the middle of the night?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. I only did it maybe once or twice before\u2014 you know\u2014 he would be in such a bad mood, and I wanted to get out of his way, leave him alone. I just went and stayed at Robyn&#8217;s for the night.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: So what time was it when you got there?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Oh, gosh, I don&#8217;t know. Maybe 2:00, 2:30 a.m.? I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: What happened when you got there?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Oh, um, she just put me to bed in the guest room. It was so late, and I\u2014 well, I was kind of upset. She told me we&#8217;d talk about it tomorrow. She told me not to worry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: She didn&#8217;t call the police?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. I wouldn&#8217;t let her.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Okay. So then the next morning, what happened? Did your husband come back?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No. No. That part was true \u2014 I never saw him again. He never came back. I\u2014 if only I knew\u2026 He never wanted to hurt anyone. I just don&#8217;t understand\u2026 I&#8217;m sorry, this has been so hard for me.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: That&#8217;s all right, Mrs. Fine.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Can I go? I\u2014 oh gosh, I&#8217;m really late for work. I&#8217;m sorry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: We just need a few more minutes of your time, Mrs. Fine. We&#8217;ve got a technician outside. We need to get samples of your blood and hair.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: What? Why?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: We need to compare them to some evidence we&#8217;ve found. You understand. To exclude you from the crime scene.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Oh. Well\u2026 do you have to? I&#8217;m kinda late for work.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: I understand. It&#8217;ll only take a few minutes, and then you can be on your way. I want you to know that we do have a warrant to collect those samples, but I don&#8217;t think we need to use that to get you to stay. I know you want to do anything you can to help us find your husband&#8217;s killer.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Yes! Of course, I do. Right. Do I need to go somewhere?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: No, you can just wait right here. The technician will come in.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: Okay. I&#8217;m sorry.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Sorry for what?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: I\u2014 uh, for bothering you with all my questions. I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: It&#8217;s okay to ask questions, Mrs. Fine. Do you want to ask anything else?<\/p>\n<p><em>Cindy Fine<\/em>: No.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: All right. 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