{"id":1740,"date":"2014-07-16T16:30:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-16T16:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/16\/holman-interview\/"},"modified":"2014-07-16T16:30:00","modified_gmt":"2014-07-16T16:30:00","slug":"holman-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/helpinghandcase.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/16\/holman-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Lisa Holman interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"videosmaller\">Wednesday, July 16, 2014 \u2013 9:30 a.m.<\/p>\n<p>A woman claiming to be Lisa Holman contacted the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff&#8217;s office. A check to verify the identity of the caller proved she was, in fact, the Lisa Holman who had dated John Reagle and recently left Oxford.<\/p>\n<p>Detectives Armstrong and Murphy subsequently interviewed Ms. Holman by telephone at her place of employment in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.<\/p>\n<p><em>Participants:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Detective T. Armstrong<\/li>\n<li>Detective S. Murphy<\/li>\n<li>Lisa Holman<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Thank you so much for contacting us. Before we start, will you please state your full name and address for the record?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: My name is Lisa Marie Holman. My address is 5000 Claycut Road, Baton Rouge Louisiana. That&#8217;s my sister&#8217;s address, and she&#8217;ll always know where to reach me when I get a place of my own.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: How did you happen to know we were looking for you?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: My friend Janet Ginsborough called me here in Baton Rouge when she heard the rumors Johnny was showing around a hand he claimed was mine. She was just checking to be sure I was alive, and well \u2026 and had both my hands. I&#8217;d called her when I was leaving Oxford and gave her my sister&#8217;s address and phone number. Then I called y&#8217;all so you&#8217;d know Johnny was apparently playing some gruesome joke. Is he okay?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Yes, he&#8217;s fine. We&#8217;re just trying to sort out some things here, Ms. Holman. If you can give us some information, it would be very helpful.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Anything I can do, I&#8217;d be glad to. You don&#8217;t really believe Johnny had anything to do with the guy whose body you found on his property, do you? Johnny would never hurt anyone. He&#8217;s just a big, fun-loving guy.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Well, if you can fill in some background on your relationship with him, it may help.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Okay, what do you want to know?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Why don&#8217;t you start with how you met him, when you moved in and then out? Then anything you want to add about him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Well, I met him through my friend, Janet. She owns Haute Stuff, the beauty shop where I worked in Oxford. I was her receptionist and did some bookkeeping for her.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: And she knew John Reagle?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: She&#8217;d known Johnny and Evelyn when they were married. Then when they split, she felt sorry for him. She knew he&#8217;d had a couple of flings, but thought I might like him. I&#8217;d been pretty lonely myself since Matthew and I called it quits in March. So Johnny and I went out a few times and really hit it off. We decided to move in together in early April.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: That&#8217;s moving pretty fast. Things must have been going well.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: They were until I got the DUI and went to an AA meeting, I realized how much of our social life involved drinking. I wanted to clean up my act and commit to the AA program, but Johnny wasn&#8217;t interested. In fact, he still wanted me to go out drinking with him and got testy when I went to AA meetings instead.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: That must&#8217;ve been hard for you.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: It was. I knew the only way for me to succeed was to break away and do my own thing. I moved out when my sister called from Baton Rouge in mid-June to invite me to come stay with her until I got a job and got settled. In fact, she had a lead on a possible job more in line with my training and at almost double the pay I was making there in Oxford.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: You up and left just like that?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: I really had nothing to keep me in Oxford anymore, so when she called, I decided that was the time to make the break, and I moved to Baton Rouge. As I said, it was mid-June. The 15th, in fact.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Was Johnny ever rough with you or abusive when he was drinking?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Not at all! Johnny&#8217;s a big overgrown kid. He&#8217;d never hurt anyone. He&#8217;s funny and sweet and gentle. I&#8217;d have stayed if he&#8217;d just tried to get sober.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Have you ever seen him get in a fight with another man?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: No, never! In fact, he&#8217;s the guy who&#8217;d jump in to break up a fight.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Have you seen or talked to him since you left?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: No. I thought a clean break was the best. And to tell you the truth, I kinda thought he was glad to see me go. I&#8217;d been bugging him with AA, and he was tired of hearing about it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Did you ever hear him mention Andy Fine?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Who?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Andrew Fine?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Oh, the dead guy. Andy Fine\u2026 Andy Fine. Where have I heard that name? It seems to me Johnny did mention that name. Let me think about it for a minute&#8230; Oh, I know! That&#8217;s the guy who owned that run-down house on Reagle Farm Road.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: What do you know about that house?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: A while back, Johnny told me that he&#8217;d contacted the old lady who owned it to see if she&#8217;d lease or sell the property to him. She turned him down flat.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: And that was the end of it?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: No. After she died, Johnny talked to this Andy guy who&#8217;d inherited it, but he wanted the house for some reason. Johnny was pissed because the guy didn&#8217;t want to work the land. He just wanted the house to hang out and party. Every once in awhile, I&#8217;d hear Johnny mutter about that &#8220;no-good who just wanted to party.&#8221; I thought it was kinda funny coming from someone who partied as much as Johnny.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Ms. Holman, do you think Mr. Reagle was angry enough at Andy Fine to have a violent confrontation with him? Maybe while he was drunk?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Oh, God, no! He might mutter and fuss about it to me, but he&#8217;d never be violent. You can&#8217;t think Johnny had anything to do with that guy&#8217;s death. I&#8217;ll never believe that. It just isn&#8217;t in Johnny to hurt anyone.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Okay, Ms. Holman, just a couple more questions. Have you been back to Oxford since you left June 15th?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: No.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Where were you on the night of July 3 and early morning of July 4?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: You&#8217;ve got to be kidding.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: No, ma&#8217;am.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: I was home with my sister and her family. We were getting ready for a Fourth of July party at her house.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Did you know Andy Fine?<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: No. I never saw him, just heard his name from Johnny. Are we about through here? I have an appointment in a few minutes.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Murphy<\/em>: Yes. Thank you, Ms. Holman. Please call us if you think of anything that might help us on this case.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Will do. Is that all?<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Yes, thank you, Ms. Holman.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lisa Holman<\/em>: Well, goodbye then.<\/p>\n<p><em>Detective Armstrong<\/em>: Goodbye.<\/p>\n<p class=\"videosmaller\">Interview ended \u2013 9:53 a.m.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Detectives Armstrong and Murphy spoke to Johnny Reagle&#8217;s ex-girlfriend about Johnny and about Andy Fine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[397],"tags":[487,527,482],"class_list":["post-1740","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hand-case-files","tag-day-4","tag-helping-hand","tag-interview"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Lisa Holman interview - 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